Zenia "Aryan Dudley" Valov Combo Thread

[Jonkenden]

236~a efc 66 5bc2[e] > stuff is probably your best choice unless it was a CH.
Or 236~a 236ab efc 66 5bc2[e] > stuff.
Or 236~a 236ab efc after launcher 66 5b j6bec 6b5c2c.

I see, thank you. Guess that A is not possible to continue without super or Extend canceling.

[ShinsoBEAM]

236~a efc 66 5bc2[e] > stuff is probably your best choice unless it was a CH.
Or 236~a 236ab efc 66 5bc2[e] > stuff.
Or 236~a 236ab efc after launcher 66 5b j6bec 6b5c2c.

I see, thank you. Guess that A is not possible to continue without super or Extend canceling.

Well if you are already in Extend force mode you can dash B afterwards just like in the punishment loop, if you catch them in the air with 236A~A you can normally 2A,5B air combo even on normal hit without meter or extend anything.

[Jonkenden]

Well if you are already in Extend force mode you can dash B afterwards just like in the punishment loop, if you catch them in the air with 236A~A you can normally 2A,5B air combo even on normal hit without meter or extend anything.

Good to know, pretty rare to catch people in the air with it but makes sense to be able to continue with that. Thank you for the info.

[ShinsoBEAM]

Hey guys got a good anti air punish 236X~C(1hit) do 6HC,5C,236A,2A,5C,236A~A,AB, air combo ender.  Pretty solid damage I learned this after playing against sharl a bunch. 

Are there any combos to blob with dark that start with 2C or hitting someone in the air?

[Greats]

the regular dark loop uses 2C, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fRewX50ucg
that's just one variation, a more optimized one is
...2c 46 edin(red) > 236236e > 5B 2[E] > 66 edin(red) > HC6 2[e] > (possible crossup) > 66 edin(red) EFC into kill
you can also start out with a standard EF 5C 2[E] reset straight into the 2nd part of the above reset

you won't be comboing into blob without a red edin charge, low to the ground EFC (involved red edin anyway), or a 236236E

there's situational combos with dark where you can combo into 236236E from high in the air such as after a neutral throw but you're not going to land in time to land an [E] move

from lower in the air you're going to need to bring them down to the ground first, the only way to do this without an el dorado charge is with something like 5B EFC > standard staircase combo, and of course it would be extremely height specific.  after that you would have to combo into 2C 46b edin(if it even works at that point) or find some other way to combo into 236236E so that you can land a 2/5[e]

In other words, there's probably a few ways you can do it, but it's going to be very situational based on height, number of hits, and other factors as well.

the only other move you can use to bring them to the ground and combo with is el dorado j.623red, and that prorates a lot so i'm not sure you'll have much more luck finding a reliable combo here either

[ShinsoBEAM]

the regular dark loop uses 2C, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fRewX50ucg

Why did I never try 46B after 2C  , air stuff I think I'm better off just ending in air string j.E,236E, and using the oki.

Off of a random crossup 236E, I have just been doing land A,5C,236A~A,2AB,jump blah blah, but is there anyways I can end it without EFC with the same great mixup I get after the EFC combo that ends in 2C,236E, jump in.  I have a feeling it has to do with comboing into 2C(2nd hit only), but I can't seem to get it to work.

[Greats]

the regular dark loop uses 2C, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fRewX50ucg

Why did I never try 46B after 2C  , air stuff I think I'm better off just ending in air string j.E,236E, and using the oki.

Off of a random crossup 236E, I have just been doing land A,5C,236A~A,2AB,jump blah blah, but is there anyways I can end it without EFC with the same great mixup I get after the EFC combo that ends in 2C,236E, jump in.  I have a feeling it has to do with comboing into 2C(2nd hit only), but I can't seem to get it to work.

In the corner you can combo a 236E hit into [4]6B edin(red) and go into your normal stuff, including EFC knockdown combos.  You can probably also just do something like 5B EFC > j9.6B E C > land etc

[ShinsoBEAM]

In the corner you can combo a 236E hit into [4]6B edin(red) and go into your normal stuff, including EFC knockdown combos.  You can probably also just do something like 5B EFC > j9.6B E C > land etc

I just spent EFC normally to carry them there, and if they got reset a second time after the first one I don't even need to EFC to kill them probably...yeah I'll try out some stuff using edin, just I'm allergic to spending meter for anything but GCing or doing the dark loop right now with Zenia right now.  Now that I see it you could just go off that straight into the dark loop, and maybe win the round straight up if you got 2 meter and their burst is down.

 Got a sweet American tech trap, at the end of a staircase combo in the corner j.B,dj.B, slight delay edin(red), it works like a charm, and it straight up wins rounds.

[Greats]

none of your EFC combos should be ending in the air unless it's from like 2E or something

[ShinsoBEAM]

None of them do, all my EFC combos end with 2C(hit),236[E], jump fly in do mixup stuff.  Only time I'm going to end an EFC combo in the air is if it will win me the match.

I thought by staircase you meant a combo where you juggle them with 5C,236A~A into 2/5A, more stuff.  Or is it where you do 6B,5C,2C blah blah?

Because off dark hit off mixup I can normally get (j.B or 2A),5C,236A~A,2A5B,(6B,236[E] or j.B6B,dj.BC623X) no meter no EFC.

Sorry about the confusion there.

edit: Speaking of 2E EFC combos hmm gotta test some things.

[eirei]

Staircase would be j.(6)BEC into scoops

[ShinsoBEAM]

Staircase would be j.(6)BEC into scoops

Is scoops land 2C, or land 6B5C2C?

[Greats]

Some Plant Zenia stuff I came up with randomly:

236E > 2A 5C 236A~A > 2A 5B > j9.(A)B6B > dj9.6B E 214E
..2C(2) 214214E (no walk) 5A 5C 236E > 5B > j9.B 6B > dj9.6B E 214E
236E 214214E 2A 5C 236A~A EFC > 5B > j9.6B E C land 6B 5C 2C 214E 66 5C 236A

also picking up hits from projectile such as seeds or gier you can go into her sway loop

i.e. gier 236E > 2A 5C 236A > 2A 5C 236A~A > 2A 5B > air combo
depending on what hits depends how much hits you can get out of it